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		<title>By: MarenSchmidt</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 00:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waste or bargain?  
   I tend to think neither.  The Economist magazine a couple of weeks ago summarized the stimulus situation on their cover:
   A baby in diapers crawling with a house-sized ball and chain, labeled debt, around one leg.  
   Our stimulus plan creates a debilitating debt for our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren to pay.  
   We need to get to work to create systems—educational, financial, health, among the first—that actually work to serve the needs of the people the systems are designed to serve.  
   Is the stimulus plan a waste or bargain?  I think flat out wrong is all one can say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waste or bargain?<br />
   I tend to think neither.  The Economist magazine a couple of weeks ago summarized the stimulus situation on their cover:<br />
   A baby in diapers crawling with a house-sized ball and chain, labeled debt, around one leg.<br />
   Our stimulus plan creates a debilitating debt for our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren to pay.<br />
   We need to get to work to create systems—educational, financial, health, among the first—that actually work to serve the needs of the people the systems are designed to serve.<br />
   Is the stimulus plan a waste or bargain?  I think flat out wrong is all one can say.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogger Smacks Around Newspaperman But Good &#124; The Arkansas Project</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blogger Smacks Around Newspaperman But Good &#124; The Arkansas Project</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 22:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for their work in a three-week summer literacy program. Brummett responded with a column today, offering a qualified-maybe defense of the payments, sparking additional response from Greene: It’s clear that John Brummett uses his column to [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for their work in a three-week summer literacy program. Brummett responded with a column today, offering a qualified-maybe defense of the payments, sparking additional response from Greene: It’s clear that John Brummett uses his column to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jay P. Greene</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Brummett&#039;s column, &quot;Waste or Bargain,&quot; was yet another example of how he substitutes personal attacks for sound analysis, logic, and facts.

He opens by calling me names: “He’s right-wing and quite the zealous advocate of many education reform notions.”

Then he assigns to me responsibility for all sorts of things that aren’t actually attributable to me.  For example, he says (dripping with sarcasm): “He gives [teachers] summers off and calculates their hours of actual classroom instruction and concludes that he knows people in other professional fields who aren’t doing as well or significantly better.”

I didn’t do any of those things.  Teacher contracts with schools give them the summers off.  The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) calculates their hourly and weekly pay.  The BLS reports that teachers, on average, make more than other white collar and professional workers on both an hourly and weekly basis.  I just repeated what the BLS reported.

He continues falsely attributing to me claims that were not invented by me: “He faulted [Fayetteville schools] for spending federal stimulus dollars not to stimulate the economy, but to pay teachers what he assumes to be twice their usual hourly rate for something they would have been doing anyway, and for much less, without the stimulus.”  

I didn’t assume that teacher pay was doubled with the stimulus dollars.  The Northwest Arkansas Times (NWAT) reported that fact and I, again, just repeated it.

Finally, he makes the case for this use of stimulus dollars: “This is a new and different program that wouldn’t have been undertaken without the extra Title 1 money from the stimulus, [district officials] say. This will be high-intensity summer session with innovative techniques and individualized instruction and counseling, they say.”

Unfortunately, he is changing the subject.  The issue is not whether a summer literacy program in Fayetteville is a good program or not.  As I said on my blog, &quot;The Leap Ahead program may well be a good one.&quot;

The issue is whether doubling (or tripling -- Brummett conveniently fails to mention that Fayetteville was paying three times as much as Springdale for the same program) teacher pay for that program was a good use of additional stimulus dollars.  If it really is a great program, wouldn’t it be better to use those funds to double the number of students who could participate and hire twice as many teachers?  Or how about making the program run twice as long?

Only right-wing zealots would favor halving the number of students or halving the number of days for a beneficial program. 

It’s clear that John Brummett uses his column to prosecute his own personal, political agenda.  That’s acceptable for a columnist, but normally they have to be constrained by facts and logic in doing so.  He can’t falsely attribute to me claims that are not my own.  And he can’t switch the issue from doubling (or tripling) teacher pay for a program to the desirability of that program.  At least, his newspaper shouldn’t let him do these things with their paper.

Who exactly is the zealot here — the person repeating the factual claims of the BLS and the Northwest Arkansas Times or the person omitting crucial facts, falsely attributing claims, and changing the subject?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Brummett&#8217;s column, &#8220;Waste or Bargain,&#8221; was yet another example of how he substitutes personal attacks for sound analysis, logic, and facts.</p>
<p>He opens by calling me names: “He’s right-wing and quite the zealous advocate of many education reform notions.”</p>
<p>Then he assigns to me responsibility for all sorts of things that aren’t actually attributable to me.  For example, he says (dripping with sarcasm): “He gives [teachers] summers off and calculates their hours of actual classroom instruction and concludes that he knows people in other professional fields who aren’t doing as well or significantly better.”</p>
<p>I didn’t do any of those things.  Teacher contracts with schools give them the summers off.  The U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) calculates their hourly and weekly pay.  The BLS reports that teachers, on average, make more than other white collar and professional workers on both an hourly and weekly basis.  I just repeated what the BLS reported.</p>
<p>He continues falsely attributing to me claims that were not invented by me: “He faulted [Fayetteville schools] for spending federal stimulus dollars not to stimulate the economy, but to pay teachers what he assumes to be twice their usual hourly rate for something they would have been doing anyway, and for much less, without the stimulus.”  </p>
<p>I didn’t assume that teacher pay was doubled with the stimulus dollars.  The Northwest Arkansas Times (NWAT) reported that fact and I, again, just repeated it.</p>
<p>Finally, he makes the case for this use of stimulus dollars: “This is a new and different program that wouldn’t have been undertaken without the extra Title 1 money from the stimulus, [district officials] say. This will be high-intensity summer session with innovative techniques and individualized instruction and counseling, they say.”</p>
<p>Unfortunately, he is changing the subject.  The issue is not whether a summer literacy program in Fayetteville is a good program or not.  As I said on my blog, &#8220;The Leap Ahead program may well be a good one.&#8221;</p>
<p>The issue is whether doubling (or tripling &#8212; Brummett conveniently fails to mention that Fayetteville was paying three times as much as Springdale for the same program) teacher pay for that program was a good use of additional stimulus dollars.  If it really is a great program, wouldn’t it be better to use those funds to double the number of students who could participate and hire twice as many teachers?  Or how about making the program run twice as long?</p>
<p>Only right-wing zealots would favor halving the number of students or halving the number of days for a beneficial program. </p>
<p>It’s clear that John Brummett uses his column to prosecute his own personal, political agenda.  That’s acceptable for a columnist, but normally they have to be constrained by facts and logic in doing so.  He can’t falsely attribute to me claims that are not my own.  And he can’t switch the issue from doubling (or tripling) teacher pay for a program to the desirability of that program.  At least, his newspaper shouldn’t let him do these things with their paper.</p>
<p>Who exactly is the zealot here — the person repeating the factual claims of the BLS and the Northwest Arkansas Times or the person omitting crucial facts, falsely attributing claims, and changing the subject?</p>
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